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Πέμπτη 25 Αυγούστου 2022

The holding position of the Saints of the Orthodox Church is that hell is eternal

 It is known that in the Final Judgment our Lord Jesus Christ will receive the worthy in the eternity of heaven, while he will send the unrepentant to eternal hell. That unrepentant sinners are worthy of hell no one doubts.

But the question arises whether they will be in hell FOREVER, with their hell never-ending. Isn't it more reasonable and more merciful that they once "pay off" and then God puts them in some paradise? Not in the paradise of the righteous, since they will not be worthy of such a paradise, but at least in some form of paradise, so that they are not in hell forever.

The holding position of the Saints of the Orthodox Church is that hell is eternal. There are also some exceptions, such as Saint Gregory of Nyssa, who have a different opinion and say that hell will not be eternal. This shows that the topic is open. Which view is correct? Obviously, both views cannot be right. And yet, the solution to the problem is that BOTH VIEWS ARE RIGHT.

Neither view is complete by itself. With the data of the last two thousand years, that is, since the time when the Son of God became human and brought salvation to people, the following is true: Those who have a good intention, repent and are saved. Let us consider how the well-meaning are saved. Does God save them directly by His divine power, by a dynamic divine intervention? No, because then there would be no need for the incarnation of the Son of God and His Crucifixion and Resurrection. The salvation of the well-intentioned stems from the salvific work of Christ. This is the basis of our salvation. With the salvific work of Christ, our very human nature is regenerated and it is enough for us to want - practically, with the works of the soul and body - to receive the grace of the sociological work of Christ. There is, in other words, a soteriological "mechanism", so to speak.

This soteriological "mechanism" only works for the well-intentioned. To the ill-willed, Christ offers the possibility of salvation, but they do not accept it. We would say that the soteriological "mechanism" remains inactive and therefore the wicked end up, of their own free will, in eternal hell which has no end, since the soteriological "mechanism" will never work for them since in hell there is no repentance ( repentance is the condition for the activation of the soteriological "mechanism" of Christ).

God could, of course, save them, that is, take them out of hell, with direct divine intervention. But that didn't do it for the well-meaning either. Therefore, based on the data of the last two thousand years, the prevailing view that hell will be eternal is correct. The only thing that could change the eternity of hell would be a NEW SALVATION "MECHANISM" specifically for the unrepentant in hell. But what could this be?

Because Christ's salvific work is complete, it is unable to save the unrepentant. THIS IS WHERE THE ROLE OF THE PROPHETIZED "KING JOHN" APPEARS. This mysterious person provides the soteriological "mechanism" for the hellish. We will describe the mechanism next, but let us first say that the soteriological "mechanism" of the prophesied introduces an intersection: BEFORE this "mechanism", the existing facts about the hell of the impenitent lead inevitably to the eternity of hell. AFTER this "mechanism", hell ceases to be eternal. We see that both views about the eternity or not of hell are true. It is enough to place them in the time frame that suits them. It should also be noted that when the Bible says "eternal" it does not necessarily mean something that never ends. For example, in Ex, 12, 17 God says (regarding a certain holiday): "and make this day in your generations lawful FOREVER". Obviously, the holiday will not always be celebrated, since the world we live in will one day end.

We clarify that what we will say is an extension of the Orthodox (doctrinal) teaching, an extension that does NOT (yet) belong to what the Orthodox Church teaches. In contrast to the decisions of the Ecumenical Synods which simply CLARIFIED the correct (doctrinal) teaching, without introducing anything new, but only giving clearer and more precise wording to the known doctrines of the faith, here we have SOMETHING NEW. Is something new warranted? Yes, because our Holy Bible does not close with a teaching letter or a historical book related to the fulfillment of Old Testament prophecies in the person of Christ, but it closes with a PROPHETIC BOOK (the Revelation), indicating that something important is yet to come. happen. The important thing is NOT what we know (catastrophes, destruction, antichrist, etc.), because we more or less expect these anyway and they are not that important (how many antichrist rulers have we not had until now? - since the time of the pagan Romans emperors).

There are others that we do not know that is far more important. Let us begin with the person of Christ. Christ is the second person of the Holy Trinity, therefore he is God. In addition, 2,000 years ago, he received both a human body and soul. He did not enter to dwell in any man, but the Son of God himself (that is, the second person of the Holy Trinity) received body and soul. Therefore from the very beginning (from conception) the body and soul of Christ were united with the deity of Christ. Therefore from the very beginning, Christ's body and soul were completely sinless. Simply put, Christ was always sinless. Now let's go to the prophet. He, of course, is not God. He is a human being. A Saint. And what is a Saint? A sinner (it doesn't matter if his sins are small or big) who struggled with humility and received God's grace, received holiness. No Saint was born a Saint. Everyone struggled and until they achieved what they wanted (holiness), made mistakes and sins.

That is why they called themselves "sinners". When the Saints receive the grace of holiness they cease to be sinners, even if they think and confess that they are sinners. They say and believe this because they were sinners BEFORE they received the grace of holiness. See the Apostle Paul how humbly he describes himself, "I am not worthy to be called an apostle" (1 Cor, 15, 9), because "I persecuted the church of God": he refers to a past that had ended for him. When the Saints receive the grace of holiness then they act like Christ. With two differences. Firstly, they do not have a completely clean past like Christ (some Saints even have a very dirty past, they were blasphemers, robbers, etc.), and secondly, they do not have the same level of holiness as Christ. In this last one the prophet is an exception because he is "THE GREATEST SAINT... OF ORTHODOX"..., that is why he is called SAINT JOHN (See THE PROPHET IS UNKNOWN). This is the main point that needs analysis.

In orthodox theology (see especially Saint Gregory Palamas) we distinguish, when we speak of God, between divine energy and divine essence. Divine energy is what we perceive as God's grace. The divine essence is completely inaccessible to humans. No Saint has access to the divine essence. Even the body and soul of Jesus Christ cannot interact with the divine essence, without this negating the fact that Christ is also God, therefore the bearer of the divine essence. Only divine grace dwells in the body and soul of Jesus. And in the Saints divine grace dwells, although to a lesser degree. Why to a lesser extent? Do they have a different nature body and soul from Christ? Of course not. THEORETICALLY, THE SAINTS COULD BRING THE EXACT SAME GRACE THAT CHRIST HAS SINCE THEY HAVE THE SAME NATURE OF BODY AND SOUL AS HIM.

The reason they bring less grace is that they are not worthy to bring more grace. And among the Saints there are differences. One is a greater Saint, another a lesser one, according to the grace that each one has deserved to receive, according to his merit. Among the Saints, one stands out, we are talking about the prophesied one because he achieved - according to his merit - what theoretically every Saint (and every man) could achieve: to receive ALL the grace that Christ could ever give. How much? Just as much as He (Christ) carries in His body and soul. We are not talking about the divine essence. This belongs exclusively to Christ and is not transmitted to any human being, certainly not to the prophet. In orthodox theology, it is POSSIBLE for a person to reach the same level of holiness as Christ (speaking of holiness we are talking about the grace of God). In non-orthodox theologies, this is doctrinally impossible. THIS IS THE REASON ORTHODOX WILL SHINE BECAUSE IT IS THE ONLY FAITH THAT CAN INCORPORATE THE PROPHECY. According to Saint Porphyry, we need not fear the pope: a theological dialogue will be abolished. THIS IS WHY THE THEOLOGICAL DIALOGUE WILL BE ABOLISHED.

Because the theology of the West will be proven false because of what was prophesied. And we come again to the subject of the eternity of hell. We said before that no Saint has a completely clean past, which also applies to the prophet. But on the other hand, the prophesied person has the same level of holiness as Christ. How does the same height of sanctity reconcile with the not entirely clean past? Isn't that contradictory? What will prevail? LOCK IT IN: IT WILL NOT OVERCOME THE PAST, BUT HOLINESS. And for holiness to prevail, the past must be retroactively cleansed of all sin. And since it will be purified for the prophet, it will be purified for every person. Because just as the work of Christ has an effect on every person, so the work of the prophet has an effect on every person. This is due to the fullness of grace that Christ brings and, similarly, the prophesied. It should be noted that the retroactive abolition of sin is the only work that Christ could NOT undertake. Because, as we said above, Christ was ALWAYS sinless.

The only one who has committed sins in the past can undertake this task. EXCEPT FOR THE PROPHET, THE RETROACTIVE ABOLITION OF SIN FOR ALL OTHERS (ESPECIALLY THE IMPENITENT, BECAUSE THE ELECT ARE SAVED BY FAITH AND REPENTANCE) NEEDS NO FAITH, NO REPENTANCE. ACTS AUTOMATICALLY ON EVERYONE. It is a natural result of the prophet's arrival at the level of Christ's grace. HOWEVER, THE RETROACTIVE AVOIDANCE OF SIN WILL NOT PRODUCE AN IMMEDIATE RESULT.

First, the impenitent will pay all their debt in "eternal" hell ("to the last straw" Matthew, 5, 26). Then, and without the need for repentance on their part, "eternal" hell will be abolished, as a result of the retroactive abolition of sin by the prophet. This is the essential work of the prophesied and the reason why this person is prophesied.


 

Δευτέρα 22 Αυγούστου 2022

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  Read the canonical biblical books and don't stray from them because there are 2000 years of confirmation for truth but that's in the Orthodox Church. The Protestant church (which comes from the word "protest") eliminated 10 books because they didn't like what they said.


The Septuagint books are all canon because the Jews created the Septuagint in Greek. At that time, the Jews didn't even understand Hebrew because Alexander the Great conquered the world and the Jews all spoke Greek for so long that they didn't know Hebrew.  When Christianity came around, the Greeks used the Septuagint to prove that Jesus was the Messiah. The Jews didn't like it so they consider the Septuagint inferior and came out with the Masoretic texts, but the Dead Sea Scrolls proved that the Septuagint was more accurate than their Masoretic texts which were written 1200 years after the Septuagint. The pseudepigrapha was all in separate scrolls, so just because they were found in the same location, it doesn't mean that they're part of "official scripture."


The Christian Bible, New Testament, has similar books to the Book of Judas… which was written 200 years after the Resurrection.  They are all called Apocrypha but there are two types of Apocrypha: the kind that is false and fiction that are not included in the Orthodox Bible. Then there are protestant Apocrypha which was eliminated because Protestants didn't like what they said and confirmed orthodoxy, even though they were canon for 1500 years. 2 Maccabees 12:43-45 actually talks about praying for the Dead because the dead cannot pray for themselves. By praying for the dead, you lift them up which is why in the Orthodox Church we have memorials so we can pray to God to forgive the Sin of the reposed so that they may enter the kingdom of heaven

PROPHECIES OF THE HOLY MATRON OF MOSCOW

speaking prophetically, about the special mission of Matrona to the Russian people and in the later years of the persecutions that she saw coming...

 

He predicted the German invasion of Russia, but he also spoke of another, later war, which will kill millions of people in one night...

 

At a young age he predicted the revolution of 1917 which happened years later, saying.

 

"They will rob and destroy the Churches, they will seize the lands and greedily divide them among themselves, persecuting everyone without exception..."

 

She once asked her mother for a large feather. She plucked it, and showing it to her mother, said to her,

 

"Do you see, mom, this little feather?

 

And what shall I see, my child, after you have plucked it?

 

That way, mother, they will soon pluck our father, the Tsar, too..."

 

Her mother was afraid, but in a short time the prophecy came true and the Tsar was led to execution...

 

Dozens of patients passed by her house every day and most of them, having faith, got well...

 

When she moved to Moscow in 1925 without even a passport or residence permit, the Soviet regime repeatedly tried to arrest her. She eluded them at the last moment, warned by God in various ways. As soon as she was leaving, the NKVD agents arrived, but it was too late...

 

 

Anna Vibornova remembers the following incident.

 

"Once a policeman came to arrest Matrona and she tells him

 

"Leave, leave quickly, you have calamity in your house. The blind does not leave you, I am sitting here on the bed, I am not going anywhere..."

 

The policeman heard her, went home and found his wife burnt by the gas stove. He caught up and took her to the hospital.

 

When he came to work the next day, they asked him,

 

"Did you catch the blind one?"

 

"The blind woman, he told them, I will never conceive. Thanks to the blind woman I managed to take my wife to the hospital, if she hadn't told me I would have lost her..."

 

Students politically excluded by the regime at the time tell how with the prayers of this blind woman they overcame the obstacles to obtaining a degree. Even officials of the regime, in a paradoxical way, helped those for whom Saint Matrona prayed.

 

But also people who suffered from witchcraft or psychological problems found their cure in this...

 

He advised us to make our cross correctly and to cross everything around us, even our food...

 

 

 

Zenaida Zhdanova once asked her,

 

"Why did God allow so many Churches to be closed and demolished?"

 

and answered with the following words,

 

"This was the will of God. The people are as if hypnotized and a terrible demonic power has come into action. It is in the air, and it permeates everywhere.

 

In the past, this demonic force lived in the swamps and dense forests, because people regularly went to church, wore and honored the cross. Their houses were protected by the images, the candles they burned, the sanctification they did...

 

The demons flew away and were afraid to come near...

 

Today, however, these houses and the people themselves have become abode of demons for their unbelief and their distance from Christ.

 

He also said,

 

"When I die few will come to my grave. But after years the world will know me, and people afflicted by sorrows will beg me to pray for them... I will listen to them all and I will help them all...

 

Come to me and tell me as if I were alive, your sorrows and your problems and I will listen to them all and I will help them all..."

 

He still remembers Mr. Zhdanova, architect engineer,

 

"I was asking her about the course of Russia during the Revolution, and she was telling me,

 

First they will take out Stalin. After him, the rulers will alternate and one will be worse than the other....They will seize Russia...

 

After the war, the "comrades" will return abroad, they will see how foreigners live, they will become corrupt and finally break their faces.

 

 

 

At that time, Michael will appear...

 

(S.S. from the following, it seems that he is probably talking about Mikhail Gorbachev. But time will tell... )

 

 

"He will want to help, change everything, turn everything upside down...

 

But if he knew he was going to fail and be killed, well, then he wouldn't have started in any way...

 

There will be riots, disputes, massacres... One party will fight the other. Then there will be some improvement, but it will take some time. You will take a breath, you will have everything, you will even be able to do the Prayer in Red Square but also the memorial services for the massacred Tsar...

 

But then the old ones will return to Russia... and the situation will become worse than it was before...

 

Oh, how I pity you all! Until the end of time, (because from then on), this is how you will live..."

 

Or Anna Vibornova remembers,

 

"I visited Matrona during the days of Great Lent (1952), shortly before she died.

 

Don't be afraid, he tells me, there won't be another war soon. We'll lie down like this and get up like that"

 

"How else?" I ask her.

 

" Well, - he tells me -, we'll go back to the "wooden" one...

 

"Matuska, I say to her, what does "wooden" mean? "

 

"Wooden plow, he tells me, that's what we'll work with then..."

 

"And where will the tractors we now have go?..."

 

Oh, - he says -, leave the tractors... Then the wooden plow will work, and life will be good. However, we have not yet reached those times. But you will not die until then and you will see all this...

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